tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post4573257411759316546..comments2023-10-26T01:59:40.483-07:00Comments on The Dividist Papers: President Barack Obama - Let the healing begin.mwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11181222537529037359noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-41742348401497242302009-02-08T23:37:00.000-08:002009-02-08T23:37:00.000-08:00If you were obama what economic package will you g...If you were obama what economic package will you give? A provocative short clip asks This question: This is taken from Davis korten new book on agenda for a new economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-84791817384675245592008-11-08T19:19:00.000-08:002008-11-08T19:19:00.000-08:00anon,We are on the same page. I do think the GOP i...anon,<BR/>We are on the same page. I do think the GOP is fighting a real uphill battle to repair the damage to their brand with young people and minorities. On the other hand, a lot of young people were very excited about the Ron Paul "peace, freedom, limited government" message, most of which was rejected by main stream Republicans. <BR/><BR/>You are probably right about the current GOP fortunes being part of a cycle. But I do wonder whether it wouldn't be easier to just put the party out of its misery and make room for something new. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by, and thanks for the comment.mwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181222537529037359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-54986351302721572292008-11-08T18:58:00.000-08:002008-11-08T18:58:00.000-08:00OK, my son just turned me on to this site. My pol...OK, my son just turned me on to this site. My political motto is, "Absolute power causes absolute corruption." You go, guy. One problem: I live in Oregon, where there is no Republican Party, and where the organized parties that there are just defeated what would essentially have been a nonpartisan voting system. Hmmm. Well, four and eight years ago we were talking about the demise of the Democrats, and now we're pretending the Republicans will self-destruct. 'Tain't so. There seems to be a subcurrent in this country that causes government to become divided over time, which is all to the good, even though there are the occasional two- to six-year stretches of absolute corruption. Let's see what happens now; even Jesus Obama can't prevent corruption when everything is one-sided, is my guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-73526302966862255792008-11-07T08:55:00.000-08:002008-11-07T08:55:00.000-08:00I ran across them while checking up on what the th...I ran across them while checking up on what the third parties were doing this election season. <BR/><BR/>Despite the baggage if they can succeed in promoting themselves as a fiscally conservative, socially liberal, pro-second amendment party I could see them successfully getting a a few folks elected into the House. That is of course provided they don't completely implode like the Reform party before then.Dyre42https://www.blogger.com/profile/16111899832534493251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-70461447433912365632008-11-06T21:55:00.000-08:002008-11-06T21:55:00.000-08:00@dyreWild. I had not heard about the "Modern Whigs...@dyre<BR/>Wild. I had not heard about the "Modern Whigs". From the website it looks like they are getting some traction. I guess I'll have to keep an eye on them. <BR/><BR/>I would've thought that they could have done better with the name than to try and revive an old brand. If I recall my history, Lincoln left the Whigs because they supported the continuation of slavery. That is quite a bit baggage to drag around, even if these are the "modern whigs" and there is no real connection. Thanks for the tip.mwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181222537529037359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-76307367084889512672008-11-06T07:26:00.000-08:002008-11-06T07:26:00.000-08:00@superdestroyerI largely agree with your conclusio...@superdestroyer<BR/>I largely agree with your conclusion, although I disagree with the rationale you use to get there. You and I have discussed this in comments here and at TMV before. I find your premise that racial demographics to be the only determinant of voting preference to be wrong headed and offensive. We are not going to litigate that question on this blog again. You'll have to take that elsewhere. <BR/><BR/>That said, I agree with several of your points. <BR/><BR/>If the Dems show fiscal responsibility and legislative moderation, the need for a divided government will indeed be moot. You can assess for yourself how likely that scenario is. My take is that promoting the divided government rationale will be more important now than ever.<BR/><BR/>I also agree that the GOP is staring into the abyss and is teetering on the brink of complete irrelevance as a political force. It is a reasonable question to ask whether people should continue to invest effort in trying to restore the Republican party to meaningful opposition. If the GOP brand is so damaged that it can never recover voters from a broader demographic, including young voters, we would be better off if it was left to die and replaced by something new. There is no precedent for a successful 3rd party in US politics. But there is a precedent for a new party replacing an existing party that had lost its way (Republicans replaced the Whigs). <BR/><BR/>Finally, I agree that it will difficult to reassert divided government in the next election, but it can be done in four years. Retaking the presidency is not necessary to restore divided government. The Senate is the best shot and will have to be the focus for the next two elections.<BR/><BR/>these are all issues I intend to discuss in future blog posts. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment.mwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181222537529037359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-67194288989410042102008-11-06T05:41:00.000-08:002008-11-06T05:41:00.000-08:00You can give up your idea of divided government. ...You can give up your idea of divided government. In 8 years the percentage of the voters that is white will be a couple of percentage points lower than today. than means that the Republicans will have to get 60% of the white vote to stay relevant. <BR/><BR/>The real divided government quesiton should be what will happen after the Republican party completes its collapse and the former Republicans start voting in the Democratic primary.Superdestroyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14708119879383713312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-2710140241248100532008-11-05T18:58:00.000-08:002008-11-05T18:58:00.000-08:00@alan,But OTOH, you are on the winning team, and I...@alan,<BR/>But OTOH, you are on the winning team, and I am a pathetic loser. Still, I am starting to have a little fun with this. I expect I will be able to have a lot more.mwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181222537529037359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-679118949303249542008-11-05T17:12:00.000-08:002008-11-05T17:12:00.000-08:003% wasn't a mandate but 6% is? Who knew? Personall...3% wasn't a mandate but 6% is? Who knew? <BR/><BR/>Personally I think they'd be spouting the exact same lines even if it was Kucinich that got voted into office.Dyre42https://www.blogger.com/profile/16111899832534493251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26542777.post-35398552403738101862008-11-05T15:24:00.000-08:002008-11-05T15:24:00.000-08:00Oh, sure. Take all the fun out of it.Oh, sure. Take all the fun out of it.Alan Stewart Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03478149013082945900noreply@blogger.com